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Can I install Oracle DB 10g on HP UX PA-RISC without XWindow? [message #259926] Thu, 16 August 2007 19:53 Go to next message
trantuananh24hg
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Dear all!

The HP that I have to remove Oracle 8i and install Oracle 10g has not XWindows, just only text-mode base with the operating is Unix BE 10.10.

I removed Oracle 8i successfully but I could not install Oracle 10g, event with silent mode. It required X-Window.

Can I attempt to install?

Thank you!
Re: Can I install Oracle DB 10g on HP UX PA-RISC without XWindow? [message #259928 is a reply to message #259926] Thu, 16 August 2007 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BlackSwan
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>Can I attempt to install?
You already failed at the 1st attempt.
I have many DB servers which have NO monitor attached to them.
I use ssh to connect to the system with X11 forwarding enabled.

P.S.
This problem really has NOTHING to do with Oracle, but is System Admin 101 training/setup issue.
Re: Can I install Oracle DB 10g on HP UX PA-RISC without XWindow? [message #259931 is a reply to message #259928] Thu, 16 August 2007 20:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
trantuananh24hg
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Quote:

You already failed at the 1st attempt.



Yeah! Thank you for your reply.

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I have many DB servers which have NO monitor attached to them.



Before you had those DBs, how did you install them? Had you have got XWindow in the other Server machine?

Quote:

I use ssh to connect to the system with X11 forwarding enabled.



Thank you for you way. Would you like to guide me by this way?

Quote:

P.S.
This problem really has NOTHING to do with Oracle, but is System Admin 101 training/setup issue.


Would you like to send the System Admin at number 101 document?

Any way, wish the best to you!

[Updated on: Thu, 16 August 2007 20:30]

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Re: Can I install Oracle DB 10g on HP UX PA-RISC without XWindow? [message #259935 is a reply to message #259926] Thu, 16 August 2007 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You should post your problem on an HP SA forum.
Re: Can I install Oracle DB 10g on HP UX PA-RISC without XWindow? [message #260268 is a reply to message #259926] Fri, 17 August 2007 21:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
trantuananh24hg
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@anacedent: Please answer me some questions which made me stress along 2 days:

- Must I install ASM?
- When running ./runInstaller, it displayed that I must set the temporary environment variables with ORACLE_BASE and ORACLE_HOME, do I set with flexible or fixed without ASM?

Some one tell me about the Exceed program which is a virtual XWindow. Have you test this program even?

Thank you!
Re: Can I install Oracle DB 10g on HP UX PA-RISC without XWindow? [message #260269 is a reply to message #259926] Fri, 17 August 2007 21:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>Must I install ASM?
I give up. What is ASM?

I have used Exceed in the past to install Oracle
Re: Can I install Oracle DB 10g on HP UX PA-RISC without XWindow? [message #260270 is a reply to message #259926] Fri, 17 August 2007 22:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
trantuananh24hg
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Thank you anacedent!

I am sorry about the "ASM" which mean Automatic Storage Management.

For the first purpose of this server which is development DB. I think that I do not need to install Automatic Storage Management.

But I am not sure if the error can occur while installation progressing.

You have used the Exceed program, would you like to whisper about this for me? I have not have the Xwindow on HP-US.

Thank you

Re: Can I install Oracle DB 10g on HP UX PA-RISC without XWindow? [message #260271 is a reply to message #259926] Fri, 17 August 2007 22:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For the last 3+ years I've been using a commercial product call Secure CRT. It can be considered Telnet on steroids.
I use it to "ssh" from my desktop PC to any of my *nix servers while having X11 forwarding enabled. I log onto the server a user "oracle".
On your HP "man ssh" will describe the basic functionality.
If this was done properly, then
env | sort
will reveal the DISPLAY variable has been automagically created & points back to the PC.
After starting Exceed or similar software on the PC that will act as the X-Windows server, you should be able to proceed.
In the X-11 world the X-Server is where the keyboard & mouse are connected.
If/when everything is correct, from the *nix server you can enter the command
xclock
& the next you'll see a new window on the PC which shows an analog clock face with the system time of the *nix server.
Once xclock successfully runs, then you'll be able to start OUI.

Why hasn't the System Admin solve this problem for you?

Hope This Helps.

[Updated on: Fri, 17 August 2007 22:18] by Moderator

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Re: Can I install Oracle DB 10g on HP UX PA-RISC without XWindow? [message #260272 is a reply to message #259926] Fri, 17 August 2007 22:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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@anacedent: I will notice to you my result tomorrow. Your help is very useful for me.

Thank you very much!

Re: Can I install Oracle DB 10g on HP UX PA-RISC without XWindow? [message #260289 is a reply to message #260272] Sat, 18 August 2007 02:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mson77
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May I do a question?

Is there a way to install oracle without GUI?

When user launch ./runInstaller... it launches oracle java-based installer which is (window+java)_based installer system to interface with the user... isn't it? I always thought that window environment plus java were prerequisites to install oracle.
Thank you,

mson77
Re: Can I install Oracle DB 10g on HP UX PA-RISC without XWindow? [message #260301 is a reply to message #260289] Sat, 18 August 2007 04:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

I always thought that window environment plus java were prerequisites to install oracle.



Basicly yes, but ...

- Java is present on the installation media, so you don't have to install it beforehand.

- The XWindow environment doesn't have to be on the server itself, you can connect with ssh/telnet from a remote workstation which has X installed, and use that X Server (Either a *nix box or MS Windows with Cygwin, Exceed or some other X server running)

Re: Can I install Oracle DB 10g on HP UX PA-RISC without XWindow? [message #260316 is a reply to message #259926] Sat, 18 August 2007 05:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dear!

In my country, today is Saturday, and every one have a weekend without working, so, I am trying to learn about Exceed.

If any one has had experiences of, please guide me to use.

Platform XServer is on HP - UX 64 bit - BE 11.11

Client is Windows.

Thank so much!

[Updated on: Sat, 18 August 2007 05:55]

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Re: Can I install Oracle DB 10g on HP UX PA-RISC without XWindow? [message #260444 is a reply to message #259926] Sun, 19 August 2007 22:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
trantuananh24hg
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If I use the command

./runInstaller nodisplay


is it true?

xfree86 is a software on unix, linux... I tried to install it on Solaris 10, and successfully, how about the HPUX BE 11.11?

Thank you!
Re: Can I install Oracle DB 10g on HP UX PA-RISC without XWindow? [message #260445 is a reply to message #259926] Sun, 19 August 2007 22:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>how about the HPUX BE 11.11?
AGAIN, I suggest that you post these problems on an HP System Admin forum. You'd increased the odds of timely & correct answers.
I have not been close to an HP system in over a decade, so I won't guess at any answer.
Re: Can I install Oracle DB 10g on HP UX PA-RISC without XWindow? [message #260446 is a reply to message #259926] Sun, 19 August 2007 22:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
trantuananh24hg
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I am sorry, anacedent. It's my problem in it.




Re: Can I install Oracle DB 10g on HP UX PA-RISC without XWindow? [message #266109 is a reply to message #260446] Sun, 09 September 2007 15:39 Go to previous message
mson77
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Hello ALL,

Regarding this issue... I would like to complement with the following information added in this forum at:

http://www.orafaq.com/forum/t/88256/110238/

Hope this help...
regards,


mson77
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